Wednesday Conference Meeting 03/30/11

  • Working on plant layout (using google 3-D)
    • google sketchUp
    • can use plot plan 2-D...no need for 3-D
    • also using visio
  • Working on finishing up economics
  • PFD is in visio format
    • post screenshot to make it seen for all

Tuesday Conference Meeting 03/15/11



What is important for process to operate properly

Need schematic of necessary controls in place

ISA symbology

Distillation column- temp, composition, temp chNge, over head reciwver, not dry pump, must have some level in the bottom of the columns, platform wert twenty or thirty feet, platform with ladder



Hx- must be able to pull tubes, need space for this, orient hot dog style,

control room, locker room, storage tanks, all equipment must be located, must have access space between equipment







Notes taken during Meeting 3


Engineering challenges Use block flow in presentation In Econ, total cost total profit, not all components Spec on period of investment Cost of money that every group will use Interest cost of money Every group will be using the same assumptions Removing gas, there is am adsorption and stripping process Hotel used engineering world for costs or sizing? Must remember to number slides Paired groups do economics together Look into what to do with waste, thermal oxidizer? Adiabatic flash to size heater

Wednesday 03/09/11 Telecom Meeting



Tuesday 03/08/11 Questions and suggestions made by Mentors:



Presentation questions:
  • 1. sizing of the distillation column are usually ~85 ft for a 35 theoretical stages
  • 2. Aldehyde: vapor & flashed
  • 3. HX between reactor & flash?
  • 4. Streams 4 & 7 should be same temperature
  • 5. Bubbling gas through tank, spark O2 to it
  • 6. Separation of propionic acid from water, how soluable is it in water?
  • 7. Are we crystallizing or precipitation it out of the process?
  • 8. Put water on Co catalyst…it will need water make-up stream


Wednesday 02/23/11 Telecom Meeting



Thursday 02/17/11 Telecom Meeting



Tuesday 02/15/11 Questions and suggestions made by Mentors:


1. Note the sources of the info and numbers brought up

2. Note the $/yr or day or month that are being calculated in the pricing and economics

3. Use scientific notation, commas, an overall number to describe an estimate without many and ongoing significant figures

4. Price of syngas is high...get a better estimate

5. Estimated capital cost is very low, get a better estimate

6. There are equipment/steps needed in the process such as:

decanter

recycle

to recover catalyst on regular basis

something to make sure catalyst doesn't go anywhere wrong

heat removal step

where to flash out product

7. CSTR is a design reactor or are we modeling it like that in aspen?

show what it is/what it's like

8. how do we get aldehyde out of liquid?

9. stick with outline as placed in beginning of presentation

10. include capital cost in a safety system

11. place process overview with total #s in and out

this can be displayed in a diagram

12. improvise the block flow diagram to show what's in the streams and display numbers





this file is from our meeting with our mentor

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Thursday, February 10, 2011
Conference Call with Shannon Brown
Attendees: Alex Guerrero, Sabah Basrawi, Kevin Thompson, Mrunal Patel
  • what we are working on:
    • Material and Energy Balances
      • Aspen flowsheet
      • Aspen Material Balance
      • Hand calculations
    • Economics
      • pricing on catalysts
        • Cobalt (II) Iodide
        • Nickel Carbonyl
      • Utility costs
      • Plant Economics
  • List of things to look over again:
    • Flow sheet with flag streams
    • MB & EB around multiple pieces of equipment in a table
    • State how this process is going to close
    • Need units from lb/yr to lb/hr
    • Pay attention to significant figures
    • State the hrs/yr the plant will run
    • Number all streams on flow sheet
  • Look further into:
    • What is the syngas coming out at (T & P)?
    • Run Economic Analysis
    • Size compressors with knowing what's coming in
    • Multiple stages for compressor


-Sabah

Thursday February 3, 2011
Conference Call with Shannon Brown
Attendees: Alex Guerrero, Sarah Hanif, Kevin Thompson

  • What we are working on:
    • economic evaluation
      • carbon or stainless steel?
        • over 800 F cant use carbon
    • material and energy balance
      • have an in-progress aspen flowsheet for material balances
      • will start on energy balances soon
  • Location: Morris, Il
    • make sure its close to a railroad so its easy for foxtrot to transport coal.
  • Send flowsheet to Shannon when done
  • Next conference call: Thursday, February 10th at 1:00 pm
  • Discuss time for in person meeting with Shannon
    • On the table:
      • Get to Shannon's work after senior design
      • Friday evenings after 4
-Sarah

Friday January 28, 2011
Joint Team Meeting: Foxtrot and Echo.
Attendees:
Shannon Brown, Adam Kanyuh
Team Echo: Sabah Basrawi, Sarah Hanif, Kevin Thompson, Mrunal Patel
Team Foxtrot: Sana Buch, Andrew Duffy, Liliana Gutierrez, Chris Starrick

  • Purpose of the meeting:
    • Things seem in "flux"
    • Establish a feed basis (should be given to team Foxtrot by Monday)

  • What we need to do:
    • Send an email to Foxtrot, Shannon and Adam stating the composition and the feed rate required
      • what contaminants can we ignore?
      • what will poison our catalyst?
      • what exactly are our requirements?
    • Location?? (information needs to be handed over to Foxtrot sometime next week.)
      • its easier to transfer coal compared to transferring ethylene, so this decision should be made as a joint group.
      • some locations to look into:
        • st. louis (marathon petrochemical plants)
          • do they sell ethylene crackers?
        • gulf coast
        • look up where ethylene crackers are readily available
        • send a few locations to foxtrot so they have a choice as well
    • Utility conditions?
      • Are there any conditions that both the teams need?
      • compare conditions with foxtrot and determine if there is anything we both can use
        • example: steam pressure levels
  • What we know:
    • Echo needs syngas to be at these ranges:
      • temp: 250-300 C
      • pressure: 100-300 bar
    • Echo is using nickel carbonyl and cobalt as catalysts
    • Foxtrot currently want their gassifier to be located in Illinois # 6 Basin/Butiminous
      • located in southern illinois

-Sarah


Notes from first meeting with Shannon (jan 23, 2011) meeting:

· Spec of impurities to gasifier team
o How pure is the feed stock?
· What would poison the catalyst
· Produce 80 kilotonne/year? Share of world market?
· Outline of what we are covering – week by week
o On powerpoint
o Look at schedule
o Focus of the week
· Economic analysis of buying vs. making ethylene
· Add quantity to design basis
· Check up solid support for catalyst
· Autoclave? Does it dissolve better?

· Acyl rhodium tetra carbonyl
o Lowers temp to 45 C
· Ceramic catalyst- talk to Meyers
o State of catalyst?
· Rough economics – meeting two
· Set up report on wiki
· More on environment review after catalyst



Meeting: January 20, 2011
Working Title: Synthesis of Plastics from Propionic Acid

Design Basis: Why we need to produce plastic. (In Discussion)

Plastics being looked at:

Polyethylene
· Polyethylene (or polyethene, polythene, PE) is a family of materials categorized according to their density and molecular structure. For example, ultra-high molecular weight polyethylene (UHMWPE) is tough and resistant to chemicals, and it is used to manufacture moving machine parts, bearings, gears, artificial joints and some bulletproof vests. High-density polyethylene (HDPE) is used to make milk jugs, margarine tubs and water pipes. Medium-density polyethylene (MDPE) is used for packaging film, sacks and gas pipes and fittings. Low-density polyethylene (LDPE) is soft and flexible and is used in the manufacture of squeeze bottles, sacks and sheets.

Read more: Uses of Thermoplastics | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/about_5436147_uses-thermoplastics.html#ixzz1BcBHf3eN

Teflon
· Teflon is the brand name given by DuPont Corp. for a polymer called polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE), which belongs to a class of thermoplastics known as fluoropolymers. It is famous as a coating for non-stick cookware. Being chemically inert, it is used in making containers and pipes that come in contact with reactive chemicals. It is also used as a lubricant to reduce wear from friction between sliding parts, such as gears, bearings and bushings.

Read more: Uses of Thermoplastics | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/about_5436147_uses-thermoplastics.html#ixzz1BcBarTNg


Leaning towards making propionic acid -> polyethylene

Wednesday January 19, 2011 (first meeting as a group)
Do some research by second group meeting


Advantages and Disadvantages of gasses being looked into:
· Propionic acid:
o Naturally occurring
o Made from ethylene and carbon monoxide
o Uses and advantages:
§ Analgesic
§ Intermediate product for thermoplastic
· Formic acid:
o May cause damage to optic nerves
o Made from methanol, ammonia sulfuric acid, and carbon monoxide
o Also made from water and carbon monoxide
§ Cheapest to make?
· Operating at a high partial pressure
o Simplest carboxylic acid
· Acetic acid:
o Global demand: 6.5million tonnes/year
o Made from carbon monoxide and methanol